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  • L'Observer et le New york Times accusent moubarak d'attiser le feu.

    L'attitude des égyptiens est dénoncée par le monde entier.
    Observer :
    Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak ratcheted up the diplomatic tension with Algeria yesterday as football-related violence continued to spread across both countries. In a statement to parliament, he told cheering MPs that "Egypt will not be lax with those who harm the dignity of its sons".

    It is the president's first public intervention in a row that has seen thousands of protesters flood the streets of Cairo and Algiers and a wave of attacks against Egyptian targets in Algeria and vice versa. The trouble started when Egypt won a World Cup qualifier against Algeria in Cairo, setting up a play-off between the two sides in Sudan to decide which country would progress to the 2010 World Cup finals in South Africa.

    Last week Egypt recalled its envoy from Algeria after expressing its "outrage" at the treatment faced by Egyptian fans in Khartoum, where Algeria won 1-0. Despite appeals for calm by the general secretary of the Arab League, Amr Moussa, rioting has spread to both capitals. In Algiers the offices of Egypt's national airline were destroyed, while in Cairo security forces battled with protesters trying to reach the Algerian embassy, which was reportedly hit by firebombs. Parts of the city are under police lockdown.

    Mubarak's speech did nothing to calm the frenzy, as he swore to protect the rights of Egyptians. "The welfare of our citizens abroad is the responsibility of the country," he said.

    However, there were signs last night that a public backlash against the government's handling of the football storm was gaining strength. "Hosni Mubarak's thugs have beaten and killed more Egyptians than any hooligans," said Hossam el-Hamalawy, a journalist and opposition activist.
    NYT
    Egypt's Media Stoked Soccer Fan Anger With Algeria
    CAIRO (AP) -- Angry soccer fans rampaged through a posh diplomatic neighborhood in Cairo over the weekend, smashing shop windows and shouting obscenities in a frenzy fed by venomous headlines that portrayed Algerians as barbaric terrorists with a history of violence.

    Egyptians were infuriated by media reports alleging their fans were brutalized by their Algerian rivals after Algeria won a playoff match Wednesday in Khartoum, Sudan, to qualify for the 2010 World Cup.

    Egypt's government -- often bemoaned by its people as repressive and indifferent to their suffering under searing poverty -- appears to have seized on the furor to demonstrate some unity with its citizens. Instead of the usual crackdown on demonstrations, authorities allowed crowds to surge into the streets near the Algerian Embassy and vent their anger in riots overnight between Thursday and Friday.

    While the two teams play each other periodically, the stakes for this match were much higher, with entrance to the World Cup on the line.

    The troubles began when crowds in Cairo hurled stones at the Algerian team's bus before a first match here on Nov. 14, injuring three players. Egypt won 2-0, forcing the playoff. And in the following days, mobs in Algeria ransacked the offices of Egyptian companies.

    After the second match in Khartoum, Egyptian newspapers unleashed stirring headlines about Egyptian fans being attacked by machete-wielding crowds -- allegations never confirmed. Sudanese police said there were only a handful of light injuries.

    ''Barbaric attacks on Egyptian fans in Khartoum,'' read one headline in the Egyptian daily Al-Masry Al-Youm. ''Algerians chase Egyptian fans with knives and machetes,'' said another.

    ''Algeria: a legacy of blood, hatred and a history of violence'' read another headline in an apparent reference to the civil war between Islamic extremists and Algerian government forces that killed up to 200,000 people in the 1990s.

    One Egyptian TV program invited viewers to express an opinion about whether Algeria might even be in league with Israel. Some Egyptians even claimed Algerians are not real Arabs or Muslims.

    One of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak's sons, a businessman who rarely speaks in public, took the unusual step of phoning in to a television talk show and delivering a 40-minute rant. Alaa Mubarak, who attended the match in Khartoum, called on Egypt to respond to the Algerians' ''terror, hostility.''

    ''It is impossible that we as Egyptians take this. We have to stand up and say, 'Enough,''' he said. ''When you insult my dignity ... I will beat you on the head.''

    The Egyptian-Algerian soccer rivalry -- and the violence that goes with it -- dates back decades. And commentators had predicted trouble days before the first of their two matches.

    A similar face-off in 1989 ended in rioting in the stadium after Egypt beat Algeria 1-0 to qualify for the World Cup. In the melee, an Algerian player seriously injured an Egyptian team doctor with a broken bottle.

    This time around, Egypt's government escalated the dispute to a diplomatic incident. Egypt summoned Algeria's ambassador to protest the attacks on Egyptian businesses in Algeria after the first match and recalled its own ambassador for consultations.

    President Hosni Mubarak even entered the fray, declaring in an address to parliament Saturday that Egypt would not tolerate ''those who hurt the dignity of its sons.''

    The outpouring of rage in the streets of Cairo was a rare sight in a country where political demonstrations are few and heavily suppressed by security forces.

    ''The regime is just allowing people to vent their anger ... and then basically encouraging the media to vent the anger,'' said Hisham Qassem, a leading human rights activist and newspaper publisher. ''It's a very good national distraction.''

    More than 40 percent of Egypt's nearly 80 million people live on less than $2 per day, according to the United Nations Development Program.

    Qassem said the soccer flap was a rare opportunity for Egypt's entrenched one-party leadership, normally accused of ignoring its people's problems, to show solidarity with indignant fans while ensuring things did not spin out of control.

    Some analysts speculated the soccer tensions provided an acceptable outlet for frustrations over the repression by both nations' governments and the limited avenues for expressing them.

    Media outlets and commentators, like the president's son, talked of the damage Algeria had done to Egypt's ''dignity,'' which seemed to point to a broader preoccupation that Egypt's influence in the Arab world may be diminishing.
    Dernière modification par citoyen, 23 novembre 2009, 14h42.

  • #2
    "Hosni Mubarak's thugs have beaten and killed more Egyptians than any hooligans," said Hossam el-Hamalawy, a journalist
    Thank you Mr. el-Hamalawy; des faits probants valent mieux que mille discours !!


    Trad: Mubarak et ses sbires ont frappé et tué plus d'égyptiens que tous les hooligans réunis.
    Kindness is the only language that the deaf can hear and the blind can see - Mark Twain

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    • #3
      thugs

      la traduction de thug est voyou , c'est un qualificatif plus cru que sbire et convient mieux aux agents engagés par les régimes arabes pour mater l'opposition et le notre ne fait pas exception.
      Dernière modification par algiers09, 23 novembre 2009, 16h09.

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      • #4
        tres dur l'article du NYT à avaler en egypte , je suppose qu'il va etre censuré labas s'il y est distribué .. ce qui fait le plus mal aux egyptiens c'es que justement les medias occidentaux ne les croient pas , en occident c'est simple l'equipe algerienne a été caillassée des joueurs blessés ; cette meme equipe a joué quand meme et s'est qualifiée .. comme le signale le NYT .. tt ce que raconte les medias sont des "allegations " et des insultes .
        en verité ...en verité... je vous le dis .. si un grain de blé tombe en terre et ne meurt pas ,il restera seul , mais s'il meurt ,il donnera beaucoup de fruits . evangile

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        • #5
          La traduction la plus correcte est : "les voyous de Hosni Moubarek ont frappé et tué plus d'egyptiens que ..."

          Voici la véritable force du silence, même les journaux américains sont en train de constater les hors sujets égyptiens...Thanks US...

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          • #6
            On a plus de visibilité maintenant par rapport à cette histoire:il n'y a pas eu de morts ni de blessés graves parmi les supporters algeriens en egypte(rien à voir avec ce qu'a raconté ce torchon d'achourouk),il n'y a presque rien eu non plus au soudan (les médias me.rdiques de moubarak ont déconné) le seul fait marquant (et anodin) c'est le caillassage du bus de l'equipe d'algerie..et c'est ce que retiennent les journaux sérieux comme le NY times et the observer......

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            • #7
              bonsoir, leurs intellos, répondent par:

              "Les médias arabes sont tenus par le quatar, les medias occidentaux sont tenus par les juifs, et puisque toute la presse occidentale a soutenu l'equipe algériennes en les montrant en sang, ceci implique que l'Algérie est gérée et soutenue par Israel, et là c'est la preuve que l'Algérie a des relations étroites avec les sionistes" Intervention d'un élu du peuple égyptien dans une émission de adib."

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              • #8
                On a plus de visibilité maintenant par rapport à cette histoire:il n'y a pas eu de morts ni de blessés graves parmi les supporters algeriens en egypte(rien à voir avec ce qu'a raconté ce torchon d'achourouk),il n'y a presque rien eu non plus au soudan (les médias me.rdiques de moubarak ont déconné) le seul fait marquant (et anodin) c'est le caillassage du bus de l'equipe d'algerie..et c'est ce que retiennent les journaux sérieux comme le NY times et the observer........
                D'accord avec toi , Rodmaroc pour la partie qui precede la partie en gras .mais pour le reste , non ! on ne peut qualifier d'anodin ..les jets de pierres sur des competiteurs. .

                C'est du jamais vu .

                J'ai vu y a longtemps lors d'un match international , eliminatoires de coupe d'Europe des Nations je crois , une bouteille jetée depuis les tribunes, finir sa chute sur la tête d'un joueur au point de corner ...j'ai jamais vu une equipe en match de coupe du monde prise dans un tel guet apens....bombardée de pierres.

                Faut pas oublier les supporters algeriens blessés apres le match aussi.

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                • #9
                  On nage en plein délire

                  "Les médias arabes sont tenus par le quatar, les medias occidentaux sont tenus par les juifs, et puisque toute la presse occidentale a soutenu l'equipe algériennes en les montrant en sang, ceci implique que l'Algérie est gérée et soutenue par Israel, et là c'est la preuve que l'Algérie a des relations étroites avec les sionistes" Intervention d'un élu du peuple égyptien dans une émission de adib."
                  Nom de dieu, mais comment ils peuvent dire ça sans se ridiculiser alors que c'est leur président qui est comme c.u.l. et chemise avec Israel dont il vient à peine de recevoir le président .............. shimon peres !!!!
                  Kindness is the only language that the deaf can hear and the blind can see - Mark Twain

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                  • #10
                    la police soudanise repond au mensonges egyptiens

                    Le commentateur vers la fin dit que meme les quelques soudanais qui supportaient l'equipe d'egypte ont abbonnné de la supporter ttellement ahuris par les mensonges des media egyptiens juste apres le match ....


                    Ga3 Fakoulhoum



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                    • #11
                      il faut absolument analyser

                      Je crois qu'il faut prélever des échantillons du foul, hoummous et meloukhia égyptiens pour savoir quelques substances hallucinogènes ils contiennent.

                      Il faut analyser l'eau du Nil à partir de la frontière soudanaise.

                      On va sûrement trouver l'explication à tout ceci.

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                      • #12
                        Ga3 Fakoulhoum
                        A mon avis les soudanais sont vexés que les égypchiens aient fini par confondre kora fel khartoum avec kora bel khorti
                        Kindness is the only language that the deaf can hear and the blind can see - Mark Twain

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