Etats-Unis : déversement de centaines de cadavres calcinés de soldats dans une poubelle

[TAGHITI]

parce que c'est des ricains ?

peut être aussi parcequ'on ne traite pas les cadavres d'une telle facon! Moi aussi je n'ai pas voulu y croire au début!

[houari16]

tout est possible avec les amerloques , ils suivent que leurs gouts et leurs plaisir ...ils cachent la vérité à leur peuple ..Devenu une habitude politique : le mensonge ..

signe de décadence morale ....

[kems]

Venant d'une armée diabolique
ca ne me surprend pas du tout

[Distro]

parce que c'est des ricains ?

non, c'est pas question ricains ou pas.

[hben]

Venant d'une armée diabolique
ca ne me surprend pas du tout

Oui, dès le moment où on se place dans cette position, il n'est pas difficile de se faire croire toutes sorte de diableries...

Quand je vois la source de l'information, celle des Mollahs qui envoyaient des adolescents se faire déchiqueter par les mitrailleuses de Saddam en leur donnant des clefs en plastic doré, made in Taiwan, qui, soit disant, leur ouvriraient les portes du paradis, je me méfie un peu!!!

[xenon]

Quand je vois la source de l'information, celle des Mollahs qui envoyaient des adolescents se faire déchiqueter par les mitrailleuses de Saddam en leur donnant des clefs en plastic doré, made in Taiwan, qui, soit disant, leur ouvriraient les portes du paradis, je me méfie un peu!!!

Regarde la vidéo post 2

[kems]

hben

Le sujet "parle" de l'armée (démoniaque) US
je vois pas pourquoi tu nous parles
de l’Iran de l’Irak ou des Martiens tant qu'on y est ...

[hben]

je vois pas pourquoi tu nous parles
de l’Iran de l’Irak ou des Martiens tant qu'on y est ...

Il te faudra peut-être mettre des lunettes... Ou je dois te mettre des sous-titres???

[mmis_ttaq-vaylit]

l administration Bush est coupable de pas mal de pratiques inhumaines a commencer par la guerre en irak sur de fausses raisons (merci dinde de la farce Colin Powel), suivi par la non diffusion des cadavres de soldat Americains tues en action dans cette meme guerre.
la revelation recente sur la disposition des cadavres incineres dans un "dump' de virginie est une preuve supplementaire de l horreur dans laquelle a sombre' le Pentagon et l administration Bush.
Mr Gates n en a eu vent (vraiment?) qu en 2008, je suppose avec l arrivee au pouvoir de Mr Obama. Comment est ce possible que Mr gates n ait pas vu cela, et c est fort probable qu on lui ait cache' ce fait. Et malgre' cela, pourquoi OBAMA l aurait retenu comme secretaire de la defense meme s il s averait excellent a son job pour gerer deux guerres?
Heureusement que l ere Bush est revolue et que l on s achemine vers la reconduction d une amerique plus saine et qui se reprend en main... vous allez assister a un grand deblayage en novembre 2012 dans le congres... Obama lui aura droit a un deuxieme mandat, j espere.

M

[absent]

hben a dit:

Venant d'une armée diabolique
ca ne me surprend pas du tout

Oui, dès le moment où on se place dans cette position, il n'est pas difficile de se faire croire toutes sorte de diableries...

Quand je vois la source de l'information, celle des Mollahs qui envoyaient des adolescents se faire déchiqueter par les mitrailleuses de Saddam en leur donnant des clefs en plastic doré, made in Taiwan, qui, soit disant, leur ouvriraient les portes du paradis, je me méfie un peu!!!

Évidement libre à toi hben de ne pas croire ni à l'IRIB, ni à Fox News, ni au Washington Post.

Par contre, BENBOUZID ? Oui !

....

Je rigole !

[tenebre]

j'ai du mal à croire à cette info !!

sa semble trop inhumains et barbares pour qu'ils fassent sa à leurs propres soldats !!

[absent]

Pour ceux qui n'y croit pas encore * Partie 1 *

Evidemment c'est difficile à croire mais c'est vrai !

Article 1 du Washington Post:

Air Force dumped ashes of more troops’ remains in Va. landfill than acknowledged

By Craig Whitlock and Mary Pat Flaherty, Published: December 8

The Air Force dumped the incinerated partial remains of at least 274 American troops in a Virginia landfill, far more than the military had acknowledged, before halting the secretive practice three years ago, records show.
The landfill dumping was concealed from families who had authorized the military to dispose of the remains in a dignified and respectful manner, Air Force officials said. There are no plans, they said, to alert those families now.


The Air Force had maintained that it could not estimate how many troops might have had their remains sent to a landfill. The practice was revealed last month by The Washington Post, which was able to document a single case of a soldier whose partial remains were sent to the King George County landfill in Virginia. The new data, for the first time, show the scope of what has become an embarrassing episode for vaunted Dover Air Base, the main port of entry for America’s war dead.
The landfill disposals were never formally authorized under military policies or regulations. They also were not disclosed to senior Pentagon officials who conducted a high-level review of cremation policies at the Dover mortuary in 2008, records show.
Air Force and Pentagon officials said last month that determining how many remains went to the landfill would require searching through the records of more than 6,300 troops whose remains have passed through the mortuary since 2001.
“It would require a massive effort and time to recall records and research individually,” Jo Ann Rooney, the Pentagon’s acting undersecretary for personnel, wrote in a Nov. 22 letter to Rep. Rush D. Holt (D-N.J.).
Holt, who has pressed the Pentagon for answers on behalf of a constituent whose husband was killed in Iraq, accused the Air Force and Defense Department of hiding the truth.
“What the hell?” Holt said in a phone interview. “We spent millions, tens of millions, to find any trace of soldiers killed, and they’re concerned about a ‘massive’ effort to go back and pull out the files and find out how many soldiers were disrespected this way?” He added: “They just don’t want to ask questions or look very hard.”
Senior Air Force leaders said there was no intent to deceive. “Absolutely not,” said Lt. Gen. Darrell D. Jones, the Air Force’s deputy chief of staff for personnel.


This week, after The Post pressed for information contained in the Dover mortuary’s electronic database, the Air Force produced a tally based on those records. It showed that 976 fragments from 274 military personnel were cremated, incinerated and taken to the landfill between 2004 and 2008.
An additional group of 1,762 unidentified remains were collected from the battlefield and disposed of in the same manner, the Air Force said. Those fragments could not undergo DNA testing because they had been badly burned or damaged in explosions. The total number of incinerated fragments dumped in the landfill exceeded 2,700.
A separate federal investigation of the mortuary last month, prompted by whistleblower complaints, uncovered “gross mismanagement” and documented how body parts recovered from bomb blasts stacked up in the morgue’s coolers for months or years before they were identified and disposed of.

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Pour ceux qui n'y croit pas encore * Partie 2 *

Article 2 du Washington Post:

Dumping of partial remains of war dead in Va. landfill spurs wider probe

By Craig Whitlock, Published: December 9

The leaders of a congressional committee investigating the Dover Air Force Base mortuary said Thursday that they would broaden their probe to include all military burial practices over the past decade, including reports that partial remains of hundreds of war dead were incinerated and dumped in a Virginia landfill.
Rep. Darrell Issa (Calif.) and Rep. Elijah Cummings (Md.), the top Republican and Democrat, respectively, on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said they found “appalling” revelations in The Washington Post on Thursday that the Air Force shipped incinerated remains from at least 274 troops to the King George County Landfill before ending the practice in 2008.


The lawmakers pressed the Pentagon for “full cooperation and transparency” in the investigation and said they would examine the military’s “practices in handling remains at all facilities since January 2002.” Legislative officials said that would include Arlington National Cemetery and other military cemeteries as well as Dover Air Force Base, the main entry point for the nation’s war dead.
“The Tomb of the Unknown is one of our nation’s most hallowed places, guarded around the clock — regardless of weather — every day of the year,” Issa and Cummings said in a joint statement. “We owe this spirit of reverence not only to the unknown service members entombed at Arlington, but to all those who wear the uniform to protect and defend our freedom.”
The House Oversight Committee opened its investigation last month after reports of “gross mismanagement” and missing body parts at the Dover mortuary. Since then, the panel has made clear that it would also examine the mortuary’s past practice of dumping incinerated remains in a Virginia landfill, as well as lingering problems at Arlington.
The lawmakers’ concerns contrasted with statements Thursday from the Pentagon, where officials said they were confident in the Air Force’s handling of fallen service members despite several embarrassing disclosures in the past month.
Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta supports the Air Force’s handling of the scandals, spokesmen from the Pentagon said. Panetta also agrees with the Air Force’s decision not to notify relatives of the 274 fallen service members whose body fragments were incinerated and secretly dumped in the landfill, Navy Capt. John Kirby, a Pentagon spokesman, told reporters.
“The secretary is comfortable with the way the Air Force has handled this,” Kirby told reporters at a news conference.
Kirby said there were “real constraints” that restrict the Air Force from notifying relatives of the dead troops. Air Force officials said each of the families signed forms stipulating that they did not wish to be notified if additional remains were subsequently recovered or identified.

The forms authorized the military to dispose of those remains in an “appropriate manner.” The families were not told that the remains would be cremated, incinerated and dumped in a landfill.
Lt. Gen. Darrell D. Jones, the Air Force’s deputy chief of staff for personnel, said the military wanted to spare relatives additional anguish. “To open up that wound, that would be cruel.”
He said the Air Force would confirm for family members whether their loved one’s partial remains were put in the landfill if they came forward and requested the information.
Last month, Panetta ordered a review of operations at the Dover mortuary after investigations by the Air Force inspector general and the Office of Special Counsel, a federal agency that handles whistleblower complaints, documented cases of missing body parts and other problems.
Panetta “is committed, obviously, to the principle that our fallen heroes and their families deserve the very best in how they are treated,” said George Little, the Pentagon press secretary. “The secretary feels that the Air Force has been forthcoming with information related to Dover.”
Joe Davis, the national spokesman for Veterans of Foreign Wars, said the latest reports suggest the military hasn’t been transparent. By contrast, he argued, the Defense Department was relatively forthcoming about problems at Arlington after initial reports that remains had been mishandled there.
At Dover, he said, the investigation hasn’t moved fast enough, and there are fears that more worrisome findings could emerge.
“Here, you continue to pull back the layers of the onion and there’s still an onion there,” Davis said.
Staff writer Jason Ukman contributed to this report.

[kems]

j'ai du mal à croire à cette info !!

Cette armée (satanique) a lâché une bombe atomique
sur de pauvres civiles

Tu n'y crois pas aussi ?

[hben]

par contre, benbouzid ? Oui !