Même pas intéressé par l'origine de ses arrière-grand-parents et ça ose parler de l’histoire de son "propre pays"...... qui sait, en fouinant un peu, ça risque de s’intéresser à l'histoire d'un autre pays.... le Sénégal, à titre d'exemple.
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Je n'ai pas compris votre excitation par rapport à ce qu'à dit Obama?
Le fait que le Maroc ait reconnu les Etats Unis, fait de l'Algérie, Libye et Tunisie des etats fontomes, qui ne comptaient pas? Faut-il être à l'ombre des grandes puissances pour s'assurer une éxistance?.
Le même traité signé par le Maroc et les USA, a été egalement signé par les autres Etats de l'Afrique du Nord.
Traités Statuts Résolutions
Le Barbarie traités - An Introduction par Hunter Miller
La première mention diplomatique de la Barbarie Powers se trouve dans l'article 8 du traité d'amitié et de commerce avec la France en 1778
Traité avec le Maroc 28 Juin et le 15 Juillet, 1786
Texte du traité
Traduction de l'article additionnel
Accord navires Signaux
La traduction anglaise de 1786
Notes de Hunter Miller
Les documents originaux
Remarque à propos de la ratification
Remarque concernant Promulgation
La confirmation ultérieure
Traité avec l'Algérie 5 Septembre, 1795
Texte du traité
Traduction de 1930
Notes de Hunter Miller
Le traité original
Autres Originals
Remarque à propos de la ratification
Les passeports
Traité avec Tripoli Novembre 4, 1796 et à Alger Janvier 3, 1797
Texte du traité
La réception
La Note
L'approbation de Humphreys
La traduction annotée de 1930
Traduction du traité
Traduction de la réception
Traduction de la note
Compte des Sceaux
Notes de Hunter Miller
Le traité original
Le Cathcart copie
La traduction italienne
Les États ratification et la Proclamation Unies
Remarque concernant le texte en arabe
Remarque concernant la traduction Barlow
Traité avec Tunis Août 28, 1797
Trêve du 17 Juin 1796
Texte du traité
Résolution du Sénat
Notes de Hunter Miller
Les modifications
Les négociations de 1799
Les documents originaux
Remarque concernant la ratification
Remarque concernant Promulgation
Remarque concernant le texte imprimé
Remarque concernant les articles 11, 12 et 14
Remarque à propos de l'article 14
La trêve tôt
Traité avec Tripoli 4 Juin 1805
Convention du 23 Février 1805
Texte du traité
La réception
La Déclaration Lear du 5 Juin 1805
Le texte en arabe
Notes de Hunter Miller
Les documents originaux
Les Documents de fichiers
La ratification
La Proclamation
Remarque à propos de l'article 3
La Déclaration de Lear
Traité avec Algieria 30 Juin And 3 Juillet, 1815
Texte du traité
Notes de Hunter Miller
Le texte source
Remarque concernant la ratification
Remarque concernant la Proclamation
Traité avec Algieria Décembre 22 et 23 1816
Texte du traité
Article additionnel et explicative
Traduction en anglais de la Turquie
Notes de Hunter Miller
Remarque concernant la ratification
Remarque concernant Proclamation
Remarque concernant un autre original
Traité avec Tunis Février 24, 1824
Texte du traité
Notes de Hunter Miller
Le langage
Le texte source
La ratification
La Proclamation
Les modifications
Traité avec le Maroc Septembre 16, 1836
Texte du traité
Notes de Hunter Miller
Les négociations
Les Documents de fichiers
La ratification et la Proclamation
Le texte en arabe
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Treaty of Peace and Friendship
ARTICLE 1.
There is a firm and perpetual Peace and friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and subjects of Tripoli of Barbary, made by the free consent of both parties, and guaranteed by the most potent Dey & regency of Algiers.
ARTICLE 2.
If any goods belonging to any nation with which either of the parties is at war shall be loaded on board of vessels belonging to the other party they shall pass free, and no attempt shall be made to take or detain them.
ARTICLE 3.
If any citizens, subjects or effects belonging to either party shall be found on board a prize vessel taken from an enemy by the other party, such citizens or subjects shall be set at liberty, and the effects restored to the owners.
ARTICLE 4.
Proper passports are to be given to all vessels of both parties, by which they are to be known. And, considering the distance between the two countries, eighteen months from the date of this treaty shall be allowed for procuring such passports. During this interval the other papers belonging to such vessels shall be sufficient for their protection.
ARTICLE 5
A citizen or subject of either party having bought a prize vessel condemned by the other party or by any other nation, the certificate of condemnation and bill of sale shall be a sufficient passport for such vessel for one year; this being a reasonable time for her to procure a proper passport.
ARTICLE 6
Vessels of either party putting into the ports of the other and having need of provissions or other supplies, they shall be furnished at the market price. And if any such vessel shall so put in from a disaster at sea and have occasion to repair, she shall be at liberty to land and reembark her cargo without paying any duties. But in no case shall she be compelled to land her cargo.
ARTICLE 7.
Should a vessel of either party be cast on the shore of the other, all proper assistance shall be given to her and her people; no pillage shall be allowed; the property shall remain at the disposition of the owners, and the crew protected and succoured till they can be sent to their country.
ARTICLE 8.
If a vessel of either party should be attacked by an enemy within gun-shot of the forts of the other she shall be defended as much as possible. If she be in port she shall not be seized or attacked when it is in the power of the other party to protect her. And when she proceeds to sea no enemy shall be allowed to pursue her from the same port within twenty four hours after her departure.
ARTICLE 9.
The commerce between the United States and Tripoli,-the protection to be given to merchants, masters of vessels and seamen,- the reciprocal right of establishing consuls in each country, and the privileges, immunities and jurisdictions to be enjoyed by such consuls, are declared to be on the same footing with those of the most favoured nations respectively.
ARTICLE 10.
The money and presents demanded by the Bey of Tripoli as a full and satisfactory consideration on his part and on the part of his subjects for this treaty of perpetual peace and friendship are acknowledged to have been recieved by him previous to his signing the same, according to a reciept which is hereto annexed, except such part as is promised on the part of the United States to be delivered and paid by them on the arrival of their Consul in Tripoly, of which part a note is likewise hereto annexed. And no presence of any periodical tribute or farther payment is ever to be made by either party.
ARTICLE 11.
As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
ARTICLE 12.
In case of any dispute arising from a notation of any of the articles of this treaty no appeal shall be made to arms, nor shall war be declared on any pretext whatever. But if the (consul residing at the place where the dispute shall happen shall not be able to settle the same, an amicable referrence shall be made to the mutual friend of the parties, the Dey of Algiers, the parties hereby engaging to abide by his decision. And he by virtue of his signature to this treaty engages for himself and successors to declare the justice of the case according to the true interpretation of the treaty, and to use all the means in his power to enforce the observance of the same.
Signed and sealed at Tripoli of Barbary the 3d day of Jumad in the year of the Higera 1211-corresponding with the 4th day of Novr 1796 by
JUSSUF BASHAW MAHOMET Bey
SOLIMAN Kaya
MAMET Treasurer
GALIL Genl of the Troops
AMET Minister of Marine
MAHOMET Coml of the city
AMET Chamberlain
MAMET Secretary
ALLY-Chief of the Divan
Signed and sealed at Algiers the 4th day of Argib 1211-corresponding with the 3d day of January 1797 by
HASSAN BASHAW Dey
and by the Agent plenipotentiary of the United States of America
[Seal] Joel BARLOW
[The "Receipt"]
Praise be to God &c-
The present writing done by our hand and delivered to the American Captain OBrien makes known that he has delivered to us forty thousand Spanish dollars,-thirteen watches of gold, silver & pinsbach,-five rings, of which three of diamonds, one of saphire and one with a watch in it, One hundred & forty piques of cloth, and four caftans of brocade,-and these on account of the peace concluded with the Americans.
Given at Tripoli in Barbary the 20th day of Jumad 1211, corresponding with the 21st day of Novr 1796-
(Signed) JUSSUF BASHAW-Bey whom God Exalt
The foregoing is a true copy of the reciept given by Jussuf Bashaw- Bey of Tripoli-
(Signed) HASSAN BASHAW-Dey of Algiers.
The foregoing is a literal translation of the writing in Arabic on the opposite page.
JOEL BARLOW
[The " Note "]
On the arrival of a consul of the United States in Tripoli he is to deliver to Jussuf Bashaw Bey-
twelve thousand Spanish dollars
five hawsers-8 Inch
three cables-10 Inch
twenty five barrels tar
twenty five d° pitch
ten d° rosin
five hundred pine boards
five hundred oak d°
ten masts (without any measure mentioned, suppose for vessels from 2 to 300 ton)
twelve yards
fifty bolts canvas
four anchors
And these when delivered are to be in full of all demands on his part or on that of his successors from the United States according as it is expressed in the tenth article of the following treaty. And no farther demand of tributes, presents or payments shall ever be made.
Translated from the Arabic on the opposite page, which is signed & sealed by Hassan Bashaw Dey of Algiers-the 4th day of Argib 1211-or the 3d day of Jane 1797-by-
Joel BARLOW
[Approval of Humphreys]
To all to whom these Presents shall come or be made known.
Whereas the Underwritten David Humphreys hath been duly appointed Commissioner Plenipotentiary by Letters Patent, under the Signature of the President and Seal of the United States of America, dated the 30th of March 1795, for negotiating and concluding a Treaty of Peace with the Most Illustrious the Bashaw, Lords and Governors of the City & Kingdom of Tripoli; whereas by a Writing under his Hand and Seal dated the 10th of February 1796, he did (in conformity to the authority committed to me therefor) constitute and appoint Joel Barlow and Joseph Donaldson Junior Agents jointly and separately in the business aforesaid; whereas the annexed Treaty of Peace and Friendship was agreed upon, signed and sealed at Tripoli of Barbary on the 4th Of November 1796, in virtue of the Powers aforesaid and guaranteed by the Most potent Dey and Regency of Algiers; and whereas the same was certified at Algiers on the 3d of January 1797, with the Signature and Seal of Hassan Bashaw Dey, and of Joel Barlow one of the Agents aforesaid, in the absence of the other.
Now Know ye, that I David Humphreys Commissioner Plenipotentiary aforesaid, do approve and conclude the said Treaty, and every article and clause therein contained, reserving the same nevertheless for the final Ratification of the President of the United States of America, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate of the said United States.
In testimony whereof I have signed the same with my Name and Seal, at the City of Lisbon this 10th of February 1797.
[Seal] DAVID HUMPHREYS.
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Vive le Polisario ! ....... Haba man haba, wa kariha man kariha
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Laisse tomber, tu perds ton temps..... les plus importantes dates de l'histoire du Maroc sont 1912, 1922 et 1956.
Oui je sais pour la majorité de marocains et leurs mixités avec les sénégalais qui étaient esclaves chez certains au Marocains, d'où le "lien du sang"
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Oui je sais pour la majorité de marocains et leurs mixités avec les sénégalais qui étaient esclaves chez certains au Marocains, d'où le "lien du sang"
Mais ma parole ont-ils quelque chose de bon ?وإن هذه أمتكم أمة واحدة
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Personne n'a répondu à une très simple question que j'ai posé, un fait confirme par Bachi, vous ne faites que tourner en rond pour je ne sais quelle raison..... Tu te trompes lourdement si tu crois que je prends plaisir à étaler certaines vérités qui font mal, mais force est de reconnaître que si on ne le fait pas et continue à nous raconter des bobards, on n'avancera jamais..... Le talon d’Achille de l'histoire du Maghreb est le manque de documents, alors quand je lis que tel ou tel est né le 15 février 1256, je me mare.
Les traités montré par nacera étaient signés par des beys turcs et l'ensemble de ces pays faisaient partie de l'empire ottoman donc ce n'est pas l'algérie ou tunisie qui ont signés mais l'empire ottoman ...
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Envoyé par nacera90On verra qu'est ce qu'ils vont nous sortir aprés.
Oui je sais pour la majorité de marocains et leurs mixités avec les sénégalais ...Vive le Polisario ! ....... Haba man haba, wa kariha man kariha
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Les traités montré par nacera étaient signés par des beys turcs et l'ensemble de ces pays faisaient partie de l'empire ottoman donc ce n'est pas l'algérie ou tunisie qui ont signés mais l'empire ottoman ...
OK, Suivons ta logique.
Le Maroc d'avant 1956 n'existait pas, puisque c'est la France qui signait à la place du Roi.
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OK, Suivons ta logique.
Le Maroc d'avant 1956 n'existait pas, puisque c'est la France qui signait à la place du Roi.Dernière modification par soufiane-oujda, 21 septembre 2013, 15h13.
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