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le 27 mai l avion en question a eu une alerte a la bombe a rio
Pour revenir au sujet ... personnellement j'appréhende une seule chose : qu'ils font coller aux arabo-musulmans le crash de l'avions genre : attentat terroriste ou kamikaze ou je ne sais quelle version vont-il nous sortir ... digne de scénarios hollywoodiens.
y avaient des marocains dans l avion...
The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.” Winston Churchill
June 2: A French army crewman monitors a radar in search of debris from the Air France flight crash in the Atlantic Ocean.
Just days before the mysterious crash of Air France Flight 447 in the Atlantic Ocean, Brazilian authorities reportedly delayed a similar Air France flight from Buenos Aires to Paris after the airline received a bomb threat over the phone.
Police and officials at Buenos Aires' Ezeiza Airport spent 90 minutes inspecting the threatened plane for explosives on the evening of May 27, but found nothing, according to a Brazilian news report.
During the search, passengers were not evacuated from the jet and later arrived safely at their destination in Paris.
A French accident investigator said Wednesday it's unclear whether the chief pilot of Flight 447 was at the controls when the plane crashed into the Atlantic Ocean. Click to view photos.
The head of France's accident investigation agency also said he is "not optimistic" that rescuers will recover the plane's black boxes, which are probably miles underwater.
Pilots on long-haul flights often take turns at the controls to remain alert. Asked whether the chief pilot was in the cockpit when the plane went down, the chief investigator told a news conference in France that there was no confirmed information either way.
He noted, "We don't even know the exact time of the accident."
He also told reporters there were no indications of a problem with the plane before it left Rio de Janeiro on Sunday night en route to Paris.
Military planes and ships from Brazil and France homed in Wednesday on the bobbing wreckage of Flight 447, as investigators tried to determine what brought the plane and its 228 passengers down in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
The planes stepped up overflights 400 miles northeast of the Fernando de Noronha islands off Brazil's northern coast, where an airplane seat, a fuel slick and pieces of white debris were spotted Tuesday in the vast ocean.
Rescue boats from several nations were sailing toward the site to start the recovery. Related Stories
Air France Flight 447 vanished Sunday night about four hours into its flight from Rio de Janeiro to Paris. The reason for the crash remained unclear, with fierce thunderstorms, lightning or a catastrophic combination of causes as possible theories.
French accident investigators leading the investigation were holding a news conference later Wednesday.
"The nature of the debris, the concentration of the debris ... all combines to prove that the debris from Air France 447 has been found," French military spokesman Christophe Prazuck said Wednesday.
Brazilian Defense Minister Nelson Jobim told reporters in Rio that no bodies had been found and there was no signs of life.
If no survivors are found, it would be the deadliest crash in Air France's history, and the world's worst civil aviation disaster since the November 2001 crash of an American Airlines jetliner in the New York City borough of Queens that killed 265 people.
The floating debris is spread out in two areas about 35 miles apart, not far off the flight path of Flight 447, said Air Force spokesman Jorge Amaral.
In Paris on Wednesday, Prazuck said the French military was moving away from its sweeping aerial searches to "the next phase, the recovery of this debris, to be able to conduct the investigation and determine the probable zone of the accident, around which we must search for the black boxes." RAW DATA: The Airbus A330-200
The naval recovery operation will start on the surface, Prazuck said, then could turn to the use of submarines to help find the black boxes.
The effort is expected to be exceedingly challenging. Storm season is starting in the zone and low visibility hampered rescue efforts Tuesday. Water depths in the area sink down to 22,950 feet.
Gideon Ewers of the London-based International Federation of Air Line Pilots Association said bad weather and the plane's flight path could combine to spread the wreckage widely
"The aircraft was cruising at 35,000 feet," Ewers said. "Wreckage could have dispersed over a wide area of ocean and then drifted even further apart while sinking to the ocean floor a couple of miles down."
Remotely controlled submersible crafts will have to be used to recover wreckage settling so far beneath the ocean's surface. France dispatched a research ship equipped with unmanned submarines that can explore as deeply as 19,600 feet.
A U.S. Navy P-3C Orion surveillance plane — which can fly low over the ocean for 12 hours at a time and has radar and sonar designed to track submarines underwater — and a French AWACS radar plane were joining the operation.
The cause of the crash will not be known until the black boxes are recovered — which could take days or weeks. They are meant to last 30 days underwater.
Even at great underwater pressure, the black boxes "can survive indefinitely almost," said Bill Voss, president and CEO of the Flight Safety Foundation in Alexandria, Virginia. "They're very rugged and sophisticated, virtually indestructible."
Weather and aviation experts are focusing on the possibility of a collision with a brutal storm that sent winds of 100 mph straight into the airliner's path.
Towering Atlantic storms are common this time of year near the equator — an area known as the intertropical convergence zone. But several veteran pilots said it was extremely unlikely that Flight 447's crew intended to punch through a killer storm.
Since thunderstorms can rise to more than 60,000 feet high, where passenger planes cannot climb over them, pilots will often weave left and right to find a route that avoids the worst of the weather.
"Nobody in their right mind would ever go through a thunderstorm," said Tim Meldahl, a captain for a major U.S. airline who has flown internationally for 26 years. "If they were trying to lace their way in and out of these things, they could have been caught by an updraft."
The crew made no distress call before the crash, but the plane's system sent an automatic message just before it disappeared, reporting lost cabin pressure and electrical failure.
Brazilian officials described a three-mile strip of wreckage. Jack Casey, an aviation safety consultant in Washington, D.C., and former accident investigator, said that it could indicate the Air France jetliner came apart before it hit the water.
On land, hundreds of relatives grieved deeply for those who were lost, a roster that included vacationers, business people, even an 11-year-old boy traveling alone back to school in England.
"We will miss your dancing feet," read a tribute from the Northern Ireland family of Eithne Walls, 29, a dancer-turned-doctor. "We will miss your silliness, your wit and your hugs. We will always hold you in our hearts and you are never truly gone." The Associated Press contributed to this report.
The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.” Winston Churchill
merci pour la source, donc il ont reçu une alerte quelques jours avant..., mais comment peut on faire passer des composant de bombes sous les détecteurs..., ça reste juste des suppositions, espérons que c'est une autre cause que ça...
peut etre un coup du mossadelquaida
pour perturber le discours au monde musulman d obama au caire
Peut être qu'on ne saura jamais la vérité, à mon avis ils le savaient , car la possibilité que la foudre déclenche une explosion était du pipo, ils avaient de quoi crier à l'attentat depuis le début sauf qu'ils étouffent tout pour x raisons.
(je m'embarque dans une hypothèse à l'Algerienne c'est extraordinaire)
Il n’y a rien de noble à être supérieur à vos semblables. La vraie noblesse, c'est être supérieur à votre moi antérieur.
Hemingway
Ensuite il s’interroge sur le message électronique annonçant une panne de circuit électrique : « Il y a cinq sources d’énergie électrique à bord d’un appareil. Pour qu’il y ait une panne totale, il faudrait que ces cinq sources ne fonctionnent plus. Lorsque tout tombe en panne, une batterie prend de façon transitoire et partielle le relais, ainsi qu’un moteur qu’on utilise généralement au sol. Une sorte d’éolienne est déclenchée pour générer de l’électricité. Pour que le commandant de bord n’ait plus aucune capacité à piloter l’avion, il faudrait que toutes ces sources d’électricité soient endommagées. Ça me paraît difficile. »
Enfin, il n’hésite pas à affirmer que l’on « peut très bien imaginer qu’une bombe a provoqué une dépressurisation de l’appareil, et que l’avion prenne du temps à se démonter en morceaux. De même, ça peut carrément être une grosse bombe qui a fait exploser tout l’avion, ce qui expliquerait que l’appareil n’a pas eu le temps d’envoyer un signal d’alerte. »
« Nous n’évoquons pas cette éventualité pour nourrir une quelconque théorie du complot, d’autant moins que les services spécialisés estiment n’avoir pas eu d’indice d’une particulière montée de tension, ni avoir identifié de menace spécifique. Pour autant, ne laissons pas complètement de côté cette éventualité, à tout le moins tant que des éléments techniques ne l’auront pas exclue. N’oublions pas que des groupes moyens-orientaux sont très implantés en Amérique du Sud, et qu’ils y font d’ailleurs l’objet d’une surveillance attentive des services spécialisés. L’histoire ne manque pas, hélas, d’attentats non revendiqués, non annoncés, et ne faisant l’objet d’aucune explication. Mais la France, très engagée au Moyen-Orient, dans le Golfe, en Afghanistan, et ailleurs, n’aurait-elle reçu aucun avertissement ? Et si c’était le cas, l’aurait-elle dit ? Il ne s’agit que d’une hypothèse parmi d’autres, et rien de plus. Mais ne la balayons pas d’un revers de manche... »
Sans tirer de conclusion, signalons l’inquiétude exprimée par certains de nos militaires depuis le retour de la France dans le commandement intégré de l’OTAN.
D’après Le Canard Enchaîné du 27 mai, parlant de la nouvelle base française d’Abou Dhabi, située à 220 km des côtes iraniennes et que le président Sarkozy vient d’inaugurer, ces spécialistes « décèlent chez Sarkozy ‘un comportement à risque’, car, lors d’une crise majeure, la France pourrait être impliquée dans un éventuel conflit. Et sans qu’elle l’ait voulu, en cas de raids israéliens ou américains contre des sites nucléaires iraniens. »
The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.” Winston Churchill
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